May 15 Farmington Mancos-Gallup Draft RMPA/EIS Virual Public Meeting 2 p.m.

afternoon everyone thank you for joining the Farmington Maine coast scallop resource management plan amendment environmental impact statement virtual public meeting I want to introduce myself my name is Teresa and Sal and I work for a local four corners environmental conveyor Mel firm here in the four corners um pardon me I will be your moderator here today I just want to welcome you we will get started here in a little bit we’re gonna let all of our attendees join and in the meantime I’ll provide some information on how you can join the webinar and just go over some meeting logistics so you can join the webinar the zoom app application on your computer phone or tablet using the login information provided during registration we also have a phone-in option should your computer tablet or phone not have capabilities to run the online zoom application that phone number for today’s meeting is one three four six two four eight seven seven nine nine and the webinar IDE is nine seven six four seven nine two three three seven two if you registered online your confirmation your confirmation email should have provided you with the phone and registration option as well if you registered using our foot our operator phone number you will only have the option to join by phone to have the best chance at seeing and hearing the presentation please download the zoom app directly to your computer if you haven’t done so already and use that instead of your web browser at the time it would also be a good moment to upgrade your zoom to version 5 or greater that way we ensure that you’re on a good version that can see our just our presentations properly in a few minutes before we start the meeting so I invite you to do that now I’ll be repeating these instructions here in the next few minutes as we’re waiting on all of our participants to join thank you you good afternoon everyone thanks again for joining the farming to make oh scalloped resource management plan amendment in Carmel impact statement virtual public meeting will begin in just a few minutes we’d like to write some more time for our participants to join so in the meantime I’m going to read just the instructions again so that everyone has the opportunity to hear those my name is Theresa Ansel and I work for a local environmental consulting firm here in the Four Corners area and I will be your moderator today you can join the online webinar from the zoom app on your computer phone or tablet using the login information provided during registration we also have a phone-in option should your computer tablet or phone not have have the capabilities to run the online application the phone number for today’s meeting is one three four six two four eight seven seven nine nine and the webinar ID is nine seven six four seven nine two three three seven two if you registered on the line your confirmation email should have provided you with the phone and option as well if you registered using your operator phone number the operator phone number you will only have the option to join by phone to have the best chance at seeing and hearing the presentation please download the Xoom app directly to your computer and if you haven’t done so already use that instead of instead of your web browser now would be a good time to update your zoom version to five or greater since it’ll be a few more minutes before we start the meeting let me get a couple more minutes and then we will begin thank you you you hello again everyone I do want to just confirm I did make a mistake on the call end web ID or that I call in ID number so the phone number is still the same at three four six two four eight seven seven nine nine however there the ID is it wasn’t correct so that ID number if you’re trying to call in on the phone is nine five nine four three nine eight five eight six nine again the callin number is three four six two four eight seven and seven nine nine and the password is nine five nine four three nine eight five eight six nine I apologize about that good afternoon and thank you for joining the farmington Mako’s scallop resource management plan amendment environmental assessment virtual public meetings in my name is Theresa aunt cel and I work for a local environmental consulting firm here in the four corners I’d like to welcome you to the meeting today we will be turning it over now to Jill Aragon from the BLM Jill hello everyone my name is Jillian Aragon and I’m the public affairs specialist for the Bureau of Land Management Farmington district office we welcome and thank you for participating in the Farmington Minkus Gallup resource management plan amendment an environmental impact statement virtual public meeting for this presentation we will refer to this project as the RMP a the Bureau of Land Management BLM and the Bureau of Indian Affairs BIA appreciate you joining us virtually as we navigate through these difficult times before we begin the presentation we would like to take this opportunity to go over some housekeeping items to ensure that you are able to access the information we are providing today the audience with us today is joining us through a variety of different means some are listening and viewing this online others joining by telephone and some may be viewing this presentation after the live session has ended during this presentation all participants are do will be muted with video streaming turned off once the presentation is complete we will begin the comment portion of this meeting additional instructions will be given once we get to that point we want to inform you that this presentation is being recorded and will be made available on the project’s a planning website closed captioning is available for the for this presentation by clicking the CC button on the right hand corner of your zoom screen transcripts of these comments will be available with the final RMP AE is if you are having technical dish to technical difficulties with the zoom interface you can let us know through the chat box by submitting a question in the Q&A feature you can do so by clicking the QA icon at the bottom of your zoom window and we will also be using the Q&A feature to address clarifications about the public meeting or the draft our MPA is if it would be easier to join by phone please use this phone number three four six two four eight seven seven nine nine the webinar ID that you’ll put into this is nine five nine four three nine eight five eight six nine additionally this webinar presentation is being streamed on BLM New Mexico’s Facebook live feed at the end of this presentation we will be providing additional information on how you can submit your comments outside of this meeting however please note that Facebook live comments will not be considered official comments on the draft our MPA now we will hear from the BLM New Mexico State Director tim Spisak and the BLM our excuse me the BIA Navajo Regional Director of Bart Stevens good afternoon thank you for joining us today my name is Tim Spisak I’m the state director for the Bureau and management New Mexico with me is Bart Stevens the director of the Bureau of Indian Affairs Navajo Regional Office the BIA has teamed up with BLM as co-leads for this e is process now the BLM in BIA welcome you to the Farmington Meiko scallop Resource Manager plan amendment virtual public meeting we understand that these conversations are often preferred to be done in person but right now it is critical that we do our part to keep the American public and BLM and BIA employee employees healthy and safe it is also important though that we maintain a capable and functioning government to the greatest extent possible during the kovat 19 outbreak to achieve this BLM in BIA are using current technology where possible to move forward with important projects like this Farmington RMP a thanks to all of you who have joined us for this meeting online or by phone today we appreciate your interest and input I will now turn it over to director Stevens who has prepared some remarks for this present presentation also Thank You mr.Spisak this is Bart Steven good afternoon I’m the director for the BIA Navajo regional office I want to welcome you all in joining us for the today’s meetings that are very important to all of us we all have to adapt and cope with this pandemic that we’re dealing with our commitment to ensuring that health and safety of the public is paramount and we also dedicated the full they are dedicated to fulfilling section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act and our government to government consultation responsibilities we will continue to be available to consult with tribes throughout this process we look forward to our continued work together and in this process we all know that during this crisis there are a lot of that still needs to happen we have reverence restore our frontline workers medical personnel and others that continue to report to work and are giving themselves selfless so selflessly to make sure that we have the things that we need social distancing bends the curve slightly and relieve some pressure on our heroic medical professional so a moment of crisis we look out for each other to guide us through one of our darkest times and heal us through a long recovery and they are taking and they are risking their lives fighting on the frontlines of this pandemic for that we want to say thank you time we want to honor and acknowledge the work that those people are doing to ensure that our medical needs are met and to honor our communities that are experiencing the same hardships that we all are experiencing in these difficult times so we’re now going to switch off the audio for a moment of silence and for you to join us and in thinking about these people thank you thank you again for participating we will now review the agenda for the meeting we will begin with a presentation and then we will accept comments from the public the presentation will cover the EIS team the purpose of the meeting the NEPA process and the project overview we expect the presentation to last approximately 25 minutes I’m going to go over some meeting logistics at this time if you need to grab a pen I’ll take a few moments before I begin as a reminder this meeting is currently being recorded and will be available after the meeting has concluded a navajo recording of a newsletter describing the project and this process is available and began can be found on the blmc planning website if you are on the computer feel free to ask simple excuse me to ask questions in the zoom Q&A feature during the presentation where BLM and BIA specialists will be working to answer you due to the time limitations these questions will not be read during the meeting we are asking participants to submit more complex questions as formal comments on the RMV is please be courteous to other attendees by not spamming or using profanity in the chat box the public comment portion of this meeting will begin after the presentation at the close of the presentation individuals that signed up during the registration can submit comments once everyone who has registered has been given the opportunity to comment the line will be open to anyone else wishing to provide comments we do have translators available so feel free to make your verbal comments in Navajo there will be two more meetings you may register for these future meetings either online or by calling 5:05 six three five nine seven zero one this Meishan will be repeated at the end of this meeting we are here today to help orient you in reviewing the document and provide you an opportunity to provide your verbal or written comments the BLM and BIA who placed additional meeting materials on the project’s planning website for your review beyond these meetings comments will also be accepted through each planning are by mailing on to the BLM farmington field office or to the VI navajo regional office now on to the presentation that will be facilitated by the BLM Farmington district manager ll sir thank you and hello to all of our participants my name is al Elster and I’m the BLM Farmington district manager your participation in this process is valued and I appreciate you taking the time out of your days to join us as we look for innovative ways to continue our mission while ensuring that our community remains safe the BLM is preparing the draft EIS due to changing oil and gas development patterns in the Mancos Shale and Gallup Stan sandstone collectively known as tomato’s gallop formations including innovations in horizontal drilling technology and multistage hydraulic fracturing the BLM will use this key is to consider amending decisions in the 2003 RMP related to impacts of oil and gas development as well as rights-of-way lands with wilderness characteristics and vegetation it’s important to remember that the BLM’s 2003 RMP is still valid and that this amendment could provide the agency with additional management tools within the decision space defined for the draft RMP AE is the BIA does not currently have an RMP for these lands so they will be using this e is to evaluate alternatives and resource impacts related to its authority over mineral leasing and associated activity decisions within the planning area the BLM and BIA are preparing the draft EIS in accordance with the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 or NEPA which requires federal agencies to assess the environmental effects of federal actions prior to making decisions while preparing this document under NEPA the BLM and BIA were required to comply with all applicable federal regulations examples include the Endangered Species Act the National Historic Preservation Act and the Clean Water Act our project managers are Sarah Scott from the BLM and Robert Begay from the BIA we also have a team of resource specialists from both agencies collectively known as the interdisciplinary team this team assisted in the development of the draft environmental impact statement or EIS and they are joining us today to help provide clarifications to the draft they will be doing so through the zoom Q&A function noted previously the draft EIS was developed based on input from agency staff cooperating agencies and the comments were received during our public scoping process there are 23 cooperating agencies in total including federal state and local governments tribes and queloz and Navajo Nation chapter houses this slide provides an overview of the NEPA process the first step is to publish a notice of intent in the Federal Register for this e is the BLM published in the 7/10 in 2014 after the publication of the notice of intent the BLM conducted public and internal scoping to identify issues provide resource and other information and develop planning criteria to guide the preparation of this draft EIS document in 2016 after the BIA joined as co-lead another notice of intent was published in the Federal Register followed by an additional round of public scoping after the completion of scoping the agencies began preparing the draft EIS scoping input from the public and ongoing work with cooperating agencies resource specialists and other stakeholders helped the BLM and BIA to develop a range of alternatives and establish establish a framework for our analysis the notice of availability for the draft EIS was published in the Federal Register on February 28th of this year this began the 90-day public review and comment period and as a step we were currently on for the NEPA process the agencies will be accepting comments on this document through May 28th after the 90-day public review period the BLM and BIA will review the comments that were submitted and begin to incorporate them into the Final EIS document as appropriate once the Final EIS document development is complete we will publish a notice of availability announcing the Final EIS which will begin the 30-day public protest period the draft EIS can be found online at www.hsn hard copies have been distributed throughout Northwest New Mexico please contact us and we will direct you to the nearest location there are four volumes of the draft EIS volume 1 contains the draft EIS itself it introduces the project and explains the purpose in need it also describes the alternatives the affected environment and the consequences of each alternative the executive summary in this document will give you a brief overview of the purpose of the project and what to expect to find within tables 2 2 and 2 3 offer a look at the specific range of alternatives for which resource management updates are being considered volume 2 includes a series of appendices with a variety of supporting information including maps and figures and volumes 3 & 4 are supplemental reports that describe in more detail the affected environment and the environmental consequences of each alternative the map that you are seeing now is of the state of New Mexico and highlighted on this map in the northwest corner of the state are the lands referred to as the planning area as we zoom into that portion of the state we are showing the planning area that is being covered by BLM’s analysis the boundaries of the planning area expand from the Colorado New Mexico boundary to the north down the south near down the south near the Vicente and Pueblo pintado chapterhouse areas and from the area known as the Hogback to the west reaching to the eastern edge of the Hickory Apache nation border the planning area includes San Juan Rio Reba Sandoval and McKinley counties covering almost 4.2 million acres with the BLM and BIA responsible for managing approximately half of those however the decision area those lands affected by this are MPA is much more focused and does not include all lands within the planning area the map is now showing the BLM’s decision area for this RMP ae is effort only the areas in yellow on this map are subject to the updated management prescriptions being considered in the document existing leases will continue to operate under their current terms our subject to the decisions outlined in the 2003 RMP once the file decision in this document is made any new lease issued would be subject to the land use allocation and management decisions of this RMP AE is next will show BIA s decision area similar to the BLM only the area shown in brown on this map are subject to the considerations on the document and now will merge the two maps to show the decision area for both agencies as you can see the agencies are working together to manage a complex overlapping landscape the range of alternatives that the BLM and BIA developed offer a range of possible management approaches for the decision area we have each identified five alternatives including eight BLM sub alternatives that would apply specifically to fluid mineral leasing management around the boundary of Chaco culture National Historic Park the draft EIS presents the varying degrees to which resources could be impacted under each alternative this will be dependent on the theme of the alternative nature of the resource location of the resource and the proposed action and other factors while each agency developed its own range of alternatives the general themes of each were similar across agencies the no action alternative consists of continuing current outlined in the 2003 RMP alternative a places an emphasis on natural ecosystems alternatives B emphasizes Jaqueline and cultural landscapes alternative C emphasizes land health and traditional and cultural life ways and finally alternative DD places an emphasis on maximizing resource protection while minimizing impacts to surrounding areas the BLM and BIA are responsible for signing their own decision for this project and both agencies are recommending alternative C as the preferred alternative the goal behind the agency is identifying a preferred alternative is to get the public to provide more focused comments it is important to understand that even though the agencies have both indicated a preferred alternative they are not obligated nor required to select alternative C for their final decisions they may select another alternative or the final decision may include components of each alternative provided that the impacts of the management tools are consistent in accordance with NEPA the next step in this process will be to review the comments we received during this public review period and prepare the Final EIS a notice of availability will be published when the Final EIS is ready for review this will begin the 30-day public protest period of the plan upon completion of protest resolutions the agencies will prepare and sign the record of decision for the approved RMP a the BLM and D il BIA will each sign their own records of decision for this process once the records of decision were signed the updated management tools would become available for use by the agency our goal is to sign a record of decision in early 2021 this wraps up the presentation phase of this meeting and you’ll now be shifting into the public comment portion I’m going to transition back to Jill so she can provide you with further instructions thank you as al stated we will now begin the public comment portion of this session if you have not had the opportunity to review the draft EIS you can find the document on the blmc planning website where you can also provide comments the comments you provide on the draft EIS can assist the agencies in ensuring that we have completed a thorough analysis so that we are able to make an informed decision substantive specific comments are the most useful for this process these comments could include new information about the proposed action alternatives or analysis identify factual Corrections or flaws in the analysis or provide information on different sources of research that could better inform the analysis examples of comments that are not substantive and may not help us change the draft EIS would include the following those in favor of or against the proposed action or alternatives without providing any rationale agreeing or disagreeing with agency policy or decisions without justification or supporting data not being relevant to the decision area or proposed management decisions or bake or open-ended questions here are some examples of comments a core comment could include this document is terrible and I am against it a better comment would be this document is terrible and that you do not adequately address X impacts that this may have on X resources the best type of comment is this document is terrible and that you do not adequately address X impacts that this may have on X resources I’m attaching some results of studies that were conducted for your review as we move into the comments a comment moderator will be assisting in the effort by announcing the speakers and ensuring that your phone line is unmuted for commenting we will be taking comments in the order that requests we received during grudges raesha online registrants first and then phone registers when it is your turn to comment the moderator will announce you by the name you registered under if you are on the web application when you hear your name please use the raise hand feature so the moderator knows you are available and ready to offer your comment for commenters that are joining by phone the moderator will identify you by the last four digits of your phone number when you hear your phone number press star nine and the moderator will unmute your line and you can begin speaking as a reminder all participants will have three minutes to provide comments once all registered commenters have been comments have been given and if time allows we will open the floor to anyone who wishes to provide additional comments we will offer this to callers on the phone first and then offer to those joining by zoom if a person is cut off or does not get an opportunity to provide a comment they are welcome to submit their comments on via the means listed on this screen this information will also be provided at the end of this meeting to ensure that we were able to receive as many comments as possible we are limiting each commenter to three minutes after three minutes are complete the commenters microphone will be muted and will move to the next person if anyone is speaking in their official capacity as a government official we ask that you let us know so that we can make note in our records we want to remind commenters that they are being recorded and to please be courteous to other members of the audience by not using profanity while providing your comments we ask that once it is your turn to speak and your line is open to please state both your first and last name and then spell them for us we also want to remind commenters that the BLM and BIA are here to take your comments however we will not be responding to these comments at this time responses to comments will be included in the final comment report that will be published with a final he is Teresa will lead us into the comment portion of our session Thank You Jill I’m going to now call on the three next speakers so as I call on you please raise your hands again if you’re on the phone you can press star nine and that will raise your hand on our application and if you’re on your computer tablet or on the zoom up on your phone you can navigate to the participant tab and then the feature hand raise features in that so on deck first we have Jeremy Nichols after Jeremy we have Leah Leah Barnett and Diane mom mom mom sorry Diane so Jeremy it’s your turn I see your hand once you once you are able to speak please state your first and last name and spell them for us thank you great thanks Theresa can you hear me okay great thanks Jimmy thank you my name is Jeremy Nichols I am the climate energy program director for wild Earth Guardians my name is spelled je REE my ni CH OLS I appreciate the opportunity to provide comment today but I do have to say much as other commenters in the previous meetings have indicated I am commenting under protest I think that the fact that the BLM is not fully accommodating the people who will be most impacted by this resource management plan amendment is shameful and I think it’s a travesty that the agency is not extending the public comment period and taking the time to ensure that everybody has a chance to meaningfully weigh in I feel very fortunate that I can weigh in virtually through zoom through my computer because I have access to broadband and create access to Internet but I know for a fact that not everybody else does and not everybody could participate easily over the phone either I frankly participating in a meeting like this over the phone is seems like a god-awful experience so I’m very disappointed at the Bureau of Land Management and the Bureau of Indian Affairs for not going more slowly in this process and taking the time for communities and for people to come to terms with a new normal in the face of the pandemic we are very concerned that this plan does not consider a range of reasonable alternatives every alternative here seems to open the door for a massive increase in oil and gas extraction and hydraulic fracturing in the region we’re very concerned that the Bureau of Land Management is not considering alternatives that prohibit oil and gas leasing and that wind down and helped transition the region away from oil and gas to more sustainable and prosperous economies the Bureau of Land Management is not a rubber stamp with the oil and gas industry but unfortunately people with the agency and who spoke earlier seem to think that that is their job to represent whatever the oil and gas industry demands of them we’ll keep fighting wild earth Guardians has already won lawsuits against the BLM for illegally approving fracking in the region unfortunately the BLM is so dead set at accommodating the oil and gas industry that the agency continues to approve illegal fracking in the region it’s shameful that there is not more level-headedness and more compassion and more humanity being shown by the agency right now we it’s unfortunate that we had to just keep fighting keep fighting the agency an agency that supposedly is trusted and is responsible for stewarding public lands ladies for today’s and future generations again like pretty much every other commenter has said at past meetings I urged the Bureau of Land Management to extend the public comment period if not suspend the process altogether so that people can focus on responding to the Cova 19 health crisis and so that people can have a chance to meaningfully engage in this process to ensure that this irreplaceable landscape the Greater Chaco region receives the protection that it deserves thank you for the opportunity to comment thank you very much Jeremy up next we have Leah Barnett Barnett and then Diane maan after death Diane we will have John Cornell Leah Diane John if you could all please raise your hand we can start with Leah Leah our jaan liya Barnett okay I don’t see Leon so we’ll move along to Diane mom Diane MA ugh a in sorry if I mispronounced if you’re on the phone Diane you can push star nine to raise your hand or if you’re on the zoom app you can scroll to the participants tab and click on it and then it’ll raise your hand yeah yeah it raise your hand option okay I’m not seeing Leah or Diane John Cornell on Cornell are you on okay after John Cornell we have Denise O’Berry box and then bin Chavarria and Steven Harris okay Denise okay at least we have Denise Denise when you have a moment you should be able to speak unmute yourself and and start by giving us your first name last name and the spelling please yes my name is Denise you LaBrie cloths de ni SE u li b AR RI CL a USS Thank You Denise yes thank you for the opportunity to participate today I’m had been moved to action because of the various attempts by tribal leaders our elected officials the head of the energy and minerals department at the state to no avail and so I give my voice to ask for this comment period to be extended until the pandemic is over the BLM and the BIA defines that it has a trust responsibility and this means that it must always act in the best interests of the beneficiary in this case it’s the indigenous people who are the land own owners in this time of global pandemic many of us are distracted and anxious about many things but we have running water and bra and reliable broadband internet many on the reservation do not and therefore cannot participate to voice their opinion in these virtual means with stay at home orders they’re prohibited from moving to even access a community center to try to get access so I also recognized that let us also recall that the IRS as part of the Treasury Department early on during the pandemic recognized the adverse conditions of our nation and this pandemic and extended the due date of taxes by 90 days and this action impacts vast revenue to fund federal government relative to this proposal the oil and gas markets have collapsed because of oversupply and reduced demand prices are rock-bottom so there is no opportunity cost lost by slowing down this process to allow all to participate this proposal itself describes irreversible and irretrievable consequences regarding sacred ancestral lands these consequences deserve methodical consideration by all stakeholders especially indigenous people who are the landowners thirty Seconds and moreover as an individual who’s a native of New Mexico my father was from Tierra Maria my mother was from Belen and Valencia County I was born and raised in Albuquerque and we love our beautiful sacred Lambs so I ask that alternative be be chosen in order to protect our sacred lands which are priceless thank you thank you very much we appreciate your comments okay so the next three people we have on deck I’ll just go ahead we only have four people left on our list so we have bin Chavarria Steven Harris art Hutchinson and Jeff go bill okay up next we have been then husband is hand raised so then you should be able to join the meeting and start your audio um hello good afternoon can you hear me thank you yes my name is Ben Chavarria B and CH a B Arri a the tribal historic preservation officer and the director the rights protection for the Santa Clara Pueblo I want to be I have been authorized by governor Chavarria to make these comments on behalf of Santa Clara Pueblo governor Chavarria is unable to attend this or any of these virtual public meetings because he and all Pueblo leaders must remain completely focused on addressing the urgent health and safety needs for our community during the COBIT 19 pandemic having these meetings at this time shows a complete disregard for the level of the crisis that we are facing on the ground in New Mexico Santa Clara Pueblo therefore deeply opposed to this virtual meeting process occurring right now you are required by multiple federal statutes your tribal consultation duties and the trust obligation to pause this are MPA so we can meaningfully participate in commenting on it the are NPA and associated NEPA and Aoife processes are of enormous importance to Santa Clara Pueblo because of our profound cultural and spiritual ties to the greater charcoal region this sacred landscape is a vital part of our present identity that we still interact with culturally and traditionally because the greater chocolatine is so profoundly holy we do need time to really analyze this breath our NPA NDIS which is simply impossible to do during this current status this public health crisis that is why Santa Clara Pueblo and many others have submitted repeated requests for a posits in the RMP a including processes related to the draft our MPA and EIS and section 106 the Secretary of Interior has not responded to any of our Pueblo requests Santa Clara does not have the time necessarily to meaningfully review and comment on the draft our MPA and EAS before May 28th the documents are volumous and require extensive time to review and discuss but our priority and focus is our people and community at this time BLM and BIA continue full steam ahead with this RMP a meanwhile the Pueblo is closed with a curfew and travel restrictions for Pueblo members Santa Clara Tribal Council in-person meetings have been suspended it is wrong of the BLM and BIA to push forward with this process when we are in emergency operations I also want to stay on record that Governor Chavarria in a meeting with key officials from BLM BIA and assistant secretary Indian Affairs in February in Washington DC requested government-to-government tribal consultation on the draft RFP and EIS for Santa Clara Pueblo specifically and for other pueblos generally in his capacity as the chairman of the operable Council governor’s Santa Clara Pueblo has requested in person full and meaningful tribal consultation on the draft RFP and he is at a time when tribal state and federal public health directives indicated as safe to meet in person we really reiterate this request again today your unwillingness and to extend the Komet deadline is putting us in a position right now that is limiting our ability to provide any meaningful review or comment again in a shameful to continue with this schedule for the RMP a on behalf of Santa Clara Pueblo I urge you again to amelie hot current schedule work tribes and stakeholders on developing a feasible timetable thank you very much for your time thank you very much Ben and if you have more to say we will open up the line after you’ve gotten through our first registered list next on deck we have Steven Harris and then art hutchinson and Jeff Goble Steven Harris are you available you can star nine I’m you’re joining us via phone not seeing Steven okay we’ll move on art hutchinson art are you available raise your hand star nine on your phone or scroll over there participant tab click it and it should provide you the raise hand feature yeah he’s there in the list if you look closely you’ll see him right there there is okay art it is your turn you should have the ability to unmute yourself and introduce yourself with your name and spelling of your name okay all right I am art Hutchinson AR Thu TCH I am som and I am a retired federal manager I managed some of our national parks in the southwest I started my career at Mesa Verde National Park and I’m extremely familiar with the Chaco area and that is the main reason I’m calling him today I followed this for many years and I finally decided to jump on and just make my opinion is noted one is that I believe of course with the current status of this disease epidemic going around the virus that it is going to be almost impossible to get a good set of comments in from the people that need to be there and there is a choice to be made here a major choice even in the three alternatives that I don’t think are give enough options and they tend to focus on rail and gas which at this time is probably one of the least effective things we need for the Southwest and again there is a choice to be made here to move forward with the preferred alternative and forever altered the landscape and the Chaco and culture that was here for a long time I don’t think we’re listening to repeated calls from stakeholders land commissioners the delegations and others to say how much and how important the chocolate landscape in the history of Chaco is to the history of not only the Native American folks the indigenous people who probably existed for many many thousands of years and made this place what it is and why it is an attraction and probably one of the most important landscapes for human history in the world it is a world heritage area and there’s no question that by driving across here and see time passing the geology and things that do not need to be destroyed for what I call short-term gain at minimum I see that the protection zone around the Chaco culture park is too too skinny too damaging and just will not contribute to not only people coming to look and appreciate what was here but also for the future and I have many other comments to make that I would like to leave it at that right now I just say I would like to see number one we stall this out and tell this disease epidemic is gone and more of the people who live out there and make a living in that country have a chance to comment more of the people who may have never been here have a chance to comment and to also alter this so that we have a larger protection zone around Chaco culture Park that’s all I have thank you thank you I appreciate your comment ok commenter is Jeff you’re available see your hand you should have the ability to talk now good can you hear me thank you good I’m Jeff Coble je FF goe beo and I’ve got two primary comments I’d like to make first of all is based on the UN recent UN study we have till the end of this decade 2030 to address our climate issues and investing more in oil and gas is going the opposite direction in terms of managing taking care of our atmosphere and our climate so you know I am very much opposed to any oil gas development we need to be putting our efforts into renewable resources and and and it’s very serious world as well as national issue and regional waste issue also too there is the ramifications of fracking and the impacts on water quality and and the damage that’s done with that so I’m opposed to any cracking activity that we do anywhere particularly up in this part of the world so that’s one area is the I just don’t believe we have the need for more oil oil and gas on earth at this time we need to be smarter with what we do secondly and that part of there’s a significant issue that’s happening that you know with climate change they say are the Southwest is going to get hotter and drier and there’s a significant issue that’s happening from that region in the around the four corners with dust on snow in the Colorado Rockies the the dust on snow issue has been as being thoroughly investigated studied and they find that the the dust and snow that blows up from that Four Corners region melts the snow in the mountains somewhere between one to two months earlier and that’s having huge consequences on you know our whole region there’s four river basins the Colorado the Rio Grande the Arkansas on the Platte which goes into Missouri are impacted by the soil that’s blowing off of there and it’s basically a soil health issue it’s about learning to manage the lands in a way that the lands become in that region becomes stabilized again the kind of the current grazing management is not is not designed for stabilizing making you help the soil healthy on that region so it’s very very significant issue and far more important then far more important than the development of oil and gas in terms of long term viability for our whole region there’s a website the center for snow and Avalanche studies out of Colorado that’s got a lot of documentation about the dust on snow issue and then finally I would agree with what other people said is that the common period needs to be extended for the people that live out in that region thank you very much for your comment Jeff at this time we would like to open up the floor for those that weren’t able to sign up or that change their mind and do want to have a comment it looks like we have one person already but just to just to remind everyone if you’re on the phone star nine and will raise your hand and on the zoom application you can give participants button and there’s a raise your hand feature so right now I would like to call Elena bond out bond akan yes can you hear me okay here you know her perfect thank you go ahead state my name is Elena e le na kayak ke aaya ke Bonnington and I am the sustainability program specialist for Santa Fe public schools I educate children regarding sustainability topics for 27 schools pre-k through 12 and I also serve as the vice president of education for the New Mexico solar energy Association but I am speaking on behalf of myself today I’d like to ditto the comments of mr.Nichols earlier and extension for the comment period is the only ethical right decision for the BLM to make I would also like to echo the comments of Ben ciabatta yeah from Santa Clara Pueblo that to consider this an appropriate time for public comment without an extension is is peculiar and it it seems nefarious and kind of sneaky to to not extend the period I would like to start by saying that the BLM has been an advocate in the past for educating young students regarding environmental steward stewardship I collaborated with the BLM the real puerco staff to fund field study trips to tent rocks Canyon and these students who went to tent rocks were transformed by the experience and hands on the land program along with BLM facilitated that so I very much appreciate the chart gel presented at the beginning of this common period and I now aim for the best comment you can use for an informed decision-making the oil and gas industry has left New Mexico with an environmental disaster in the southeast corner of the state the produced water there the drills the abandoned drills they will be abandoned shortly it’s a mess and now we’re looking at more extractive action in a sacred space and we take students from Santa Fe public schools to Chaco on trips to Chaco as well I advise you to view the short six part series that cavi these are videographers based in the city of Santa Fe have created that is kaboo claw [Music] the kids and I think we may have lost you and everyone hear me still yeah we hear you just fine Teresa the timer continued so I think it was on her head she’s back though it looks like now so if you want to give her I think we had at least 30 seconds left I’m not sure exactly you’re still on okay I apologize at what point did you lose me I’m just late five seconds okay then I’m good I hope I made the most important thing is that this group this panel please see the Cavafy Ruiz climate advocates vocs you need us you can stream it on the kapu website they are local videographers and the the situation down in the Carlsbad region is completely articulated for you to move ahead or not move ahead with extractive policies around the Chaco area thank you thanks Lena I think we did maybe miss a part about the hafu but maybe you got it I think you maybe covered it if you want to speak again we will do that okay do we have any other folks on the line or on the call the webinar that would like to provide a comment again we have about an hour left and we will hold the line open we will keep the webinar open so that anyone that joins late may have the opportunity to give a public comment if anyone decides between now and then just please raise your hand we’re happy to hear your comment well somebody reminds you that you can always submit a verbal or written comment through the BLM’s website you can always mail a comment we do have an automated line that information will be provided in the next slide once we’ve finished comments we have Jeremy Nichols again Jeremy you know I just I wanted to see you know these meetings there’s been a lot of dead time at the end and if this were a normal public meeting we’d have an opportunity to approach individual BLM staff to talk with them and ask questions get greater insight talk with people like Al and Tim who might show up and I’m wondering why we can’t do that and why we have to sit in silence instead or you guys have to wait for somebody to show up to comment why can’t we engage in a conversation and a dialogue right now Thank You Jeremy I do want to remind everyone that I’m not really allowed to answer questions so if you do have a question please put it in a quick question an answer box and we will try to accept that and it should answer back quickly as possible would anyone else like to provide a comment okay we have an Isetta Rini and then been shot Maria and Elaine fun acting again so we will move on to Aniston Turini Anna okay can you hear you it’s a tiny bit choppy Anna but let’s try again okay I’m my name is Anna Santorini a na s like in Sam a and T ou R I n I I would like to hear more from the other speakers I would like to hear from more from absolutely everyone but especially Ben Shivani Chavarria and Jeremy Nichols and I’d like to hear the part we missed from Elena kayak about a six-part series or at least the name of the acronym spelled out so so that we can look it up online thank you very much thank you Anna next on deck we have been in Shibuya and Elena monican will be the after bed then are you you with us yeah I’m still with uh with Yuka near me here you great I just wanted to make sure that you got all of my comments and I just I guess what touch base on the last cuz I don’t know if I did run out of time so I just wanted to make sure I getting the last three of my comments the one was I guess your unwillingness to extend the comment deadline is putting us in a position right now that is limiting our ability to provide any meaningful review or comment and again it is shameful to continue with this current schedule for the our MPA on behalf and on behalf of the Santa Clara Pueblo I do urge you to immediately halt the current schedule and work with tribes and other stakeholders on developing a feasible timetable again this three minute time limit is also extremely offensive this is an important topic and it shows no equality for the general public and the federal recognized tribes to effectively and efficiently give verbal statements of great concern and that’s what I would like to go ahead and thank you for your time on thank you very much we appreciate your feedback and your comment turn em on else on the line that would like to to give a comment there’s Elena Elena again hey Elena okay are you able to hear me now I can hear you’re very well now yes okay that’s wonderful I just wanted to articulate clearly the resource that I had mentioned in my earlier comment period the six part series and it’s short each part is very short I think the longest is a half an hour it’s called unearthed all capital letters unearthed X : exploring oil and gas issues in New Mexico it can be streamed for free at Kabu see AVU org and people are welcome to contact kibou for more information on how they’d produce the series you’ll find it very well-balanced and that is it the I hope you heard that I mentioned the oil and gas industry is left New Mexico with an environmental disaster in the southeast corner of the state with produced water and soon to be abandoned drills so I will type up this comment and send it to your web whatever will you make that can you put that on the screen so everyone can see where we can make comments further comments yes okay well thank you so much I appreciate Joe Thank You Leah we have anyone else again we will keep the line open right now we we have just under an hour so please feel free to raise your hand we have Jeremy again Jeremy yeah hi there thanks Teresa you know I again like I want this to be an opportunity for us to be able to engage you the agency and I know everybody who’s listening right now feels the same way in fact if somebody’s on and you feel like you want to talk to the agency then right yes in the chat please PLEASE right yes because I want the agency to know we want to talk to the agency and I don’t know why we don’t get a chance to do that why is this so one-sided this is so unlike a public hearing so unlike an opportunity for public comment it’s astonishing here the BLM should be ashamed of this process people want to engage with the agency they want to be heard and we’re not feeling like we’re being heard right now I just would like to ask some questions and to be able to have a BLM official an actual face to face discussion with a BLM official just like I would add a public meeting I don’t even know if they’re on right now if they are on and listening I hope they might be brave enough to actually show their face and actually engage in a dialogue and answer some questions and if they’re not on right now then what a joke this is what a joke that they’re not taking the time to listen to people and to try to understand our concerns it just seems like this process is so stacked against people at the moment so I just again I want to reiterate I want a chance to be able to talk to the agency I don’t understand why we can’t get a chance to talk to the agency to ask some actual questions please please consider this instead of just letting deadtime play out here give us a chance to engage in conversation that’s it for now thanks Jeremy we really appreciate your feedback again you can use the question-and-answer box and we thank you for your comment is there anyone else that would like to provide a comment again we will hold the line open for the next 50 minutes – raise your hand if you’re on the phone please press star 9 to raise your hand if you are on the web you can hit the participants button and there’s a raise your hand feature will continue to provide the opportunity for all that have joined and that may join for the next hour well now 50 minutes so thank you everyone we have Mabel Sankar Sen ger Mabel Mabel would you like to leave a or like to introduce yourself this is Mabel a singer sa nger from Salina Kansas virtually originally coming rigidly from the EZ area indicated using plain an area mines Wayne I’m her husband she’s asked me to assist with comments if that’s ok I will continue she’s a Navajo from the magnesia which is within you indicated tiny area one concern she has expressed is that what about the language barrier there are a lot of Navajo lotty’s in that area who still do not speak English and therefore hard to understand this whole process and those who can’t figure it out may not have internet accessible as one person indicated they probably would have but here in Kansas even the internet is not accessible everywhere or cell phone service for that matter also the concern that she has raised is that not hearing comments from the local a lot ease within that area who are actually benefiting or trying to benefit from development of those natural resources understood that renewable resources need to be developed but the petroleum need is not going away real soon with all the uses for that and in the meantime families have benefited from the development of those resources and the ability to do so is very very much needed by those families what else may be over Navajos still scared to speak up so there is a reason why the novel and the interpretation should be included with the ax meeting I don’t know how hard that be to do and understandably there are tribes involved here as well but the local lackeys have having have experienced difficulties developing their resources as a result of this and they’re also advocating for the five-mile protection the buffer zone around Chaco Canyon area that that along with the current environmental and historical protections that are in place sometimes to be adequate also the family out there has worked very closely with oil companies and aware of their effort to protect the environment and are probably leaving a smaller footprint now due to new technology than they were years back for a variety of things and thank you yeah Thank You Mabel at this time we would like to welcome anyone else that would like to raise their hand to provide a comment we appreciate all your comments to raise your hand on the phone again you can click you can hit star 9 to raise your hand in the zoo map navigate to the participants cap click on it and there should be a raise hand feature we have about 45 minutes left we will continue to keep the line open and continue the webinar so that if we have individuals join they can do so looks like we do have a Margaret wodsworth Margaret hello what am i Commons I’m just really concerned because I thought that these meetings were to engage the local community that are impacted by this research management plan amendment and so far I think we’ve only heard two indigenous folks who are from communities who are impacted and you know Mabel who was able to join from Salina Kansas that was great but I’m just want trying to voice this concern that I don’t think this this meeting is representative of the community thank you very much for your comment Margaret anyone else on the line we really appreciate everyone’s comments and we will hold the line and open press star 9 or raise your hand in the app I will come back on throughout the time I’d like to go ahead right now and share the information that has the hottest a bit written or verbal comments beyond this public meeting and then we will go back to taking taking more comments and and again remember that it’s it’s welcomed if you want if you’ve already given a comment we welcome you to given up there one so please please don’t hesitate we have over over 40 minutes left so we invite you to provide a comment more than once if you would like okay I’m gonna switch over to a screen showing the the methods to submit to submit comments when we received another hand raised we will come back to the to the timer screen thank you you you Jeremy Nichols has raised his hand again Jeremy please go ahead and make your comment thank you I just want to say this is absurd like we’re so gonna sit in silence here when we could have a conversation we could engage in company questioning and have a chance to actually engage with the agency officials who are responsible for this I this is this is beyond surreal that the agency would rather we sit in silence and not respond here like who and again like you guys say people with the BLM staff are on this meeting I don’t believe it where are they where are their faces how do we have any assurance that they’re actually paying attention this is this is turning into a complete joke in many respects I I can’t believe the agency thinks that this is okay or that this is doing the public any justice here will somebody from the BLM actually say anything and actually respond and actually answer a question or two thank you for your comment Jeremy we appreciate your input anyone else would like to make a public comment we’re opening this right now for public comment if you do have questions please place them in the question and answer box thank you you would you have Mabel back again Mabel you should have the ability to go ahead and give another public comment yes hi I was going to tell you that the first time to have a meeting like this was the Navajos they not gonna really come come in and use this because they’re not used to do stuff like that and there are they’re still afraid what’s gonna happen if they spoke and I’m glad you guys are doing this and they let them know that you are doing it with harm anybody is this for people okay and we’ve talked more in light of that would advocate also to delay this deadline and make a bigger area effort to get the local people involved in some way or another and due to the social distancing and the virus situation that may be difficult in the near future but part of the silence we think is because there aren’t more local people involved in this meeting and I guess we have spoken thank you thank you very much for your comment we really appreciate it is anyone else at this time please raise your hand if you’re on the phone by pressing star 9 if you’re on the computer you can hit the participants tab and hit the raise but raise your hand option I’m gonna go back to the slide showing how you can submit to your comments in other ways oh it looks like Yolanda Yolanda Hernandez I’d like to give a comment thank you look Yolanda can you hear me I can hear you great Yolanda thank you please state your first and last name and spell it out first my name is Yolanda Hernandez it’s y ou L en da a tRNA and Dez I just wanted to say that I’m an allotment owner that lives and grew up in the Nighy the area also the light Brook area I just want to state that it seems like as an allotment owner who owns a share of land in that area that I am NOT being heard along with all my relatives that live in that area for some reason we have other tribes coming in and saying that it’s sacred it’s sacred but if it’s that sacred then why not just close the park we have the Navajo people that live in that area we’re one Navajo we’re the Navajo tribe and I think that we should be heard a lot of my relatives a lot of natives that live in the area they depend on this money from oil and gas they benefit from this to feed their family they put groceries on the table they put food on the table they pay their bills I don’t understand why they’re not being heard and I also agree with what Mabel said then that the older Navajos they’re not used to this stuff they don’t know how to work this whole process so they’re not they’re not gonna step up and they’re not going to voice their opinion because they’re afraid of it I just feel like as an owner that we’re not being heard and I’m I mean I in here did that land from my parents I felt like I should be heard because that’s where I grew up and that was my parents land and their parents land so it would be nice if the BLM are in the BIA that they would take that opportunity to listen to the people in that community the people live in that area the people that live in the area they depend on this is it’s it’s a hardship for them right now and I don’t think that people are seeing that side of it oil and production has been going in that on in that area for over 50 years so I just I just don’t think it’s fair it seems all one-sided thank you Thank You Yolanda we really appreciate your comment at this time we can welcome any more commenters please raise your hand star 9 or the raised hand icon they do want to remind folks that that you can submit your verbal comment in your native language we we have translators available so we we encourage that again if you’ve commented and you would like to make another comment please feel free to raise your hand again we do have um we’re approaching about 30 minutes left so we’ll have 30 minutes this time I don’t see anyone you know when raising their hand so I will go back to the slide showing how to submit comments and other methods beyond this particular format you jeremy has its hand raised again we will go back to the timer slide Jeremy you should be able to thanks thanks Theresa I just I just want to echo what was said earlier in terms of the silence here reflecting just how few of the American public and impacted communities and impacted indigenous peoples are being reached by the Bureau of Land Management as part of this process it really does speak volumes to just how ineffective this form of outreach is and I know that the Bureau of Land Management is trying hard be urban Eden Ferris is trying hard to weather this pandemic right now but it’s just all things are clearly indicating that you know this is just not working this this virtual public comment hearing is not working sure we’re getting a chance to speak out and say a few words in three minutes but we can’t engage in a conversation we can’t be face-to-face this is about as far away from a public hearing that you can get I feel like I’m literally talking to my computer screen right now I’m talking to a wall basically and there’s simply no substitute for being in person and being able to have a conversation with another human being I understand that the Bureau of Land Management wants to continue doing its business but in this you know in this time of crisis maybe there’s some business it just needs to be put on hold I know for a lot of us we put a lot of business on hold we put schooling on hold for our kids we put lots of other errands and life choices on hold because of the pandemic because that’s what we do is responsible human beings we we do what we need to do to weather the storm avoid the health risks and help slow the spread of kovat and while a virtual hearing can out slow the spread of the kovat disease it’s it’s it’s not sufficient to meet the BLM’s obligation to the american public to the Navajo people to public tribes who have connections to this landscape you know all things are pointing to the need to suspend this process and to put the brakes on planning in the greater Chaco region you know we we want a good plan we want to see this planning unfold in a good way but not at the expense of meaningful public engagement and not at the expense of feeling like we’re being heard in this process so again I get off and there’ll be more silence I think it’s hugely unfortunate it it’s all gonna be recorded it’s all you guys are Facebook lighting it you can go back and watch it it’s really gonna say something when people go back and watch these videos and they have to listen to a half an hour or more of silence and again it just speaks to how ineffective this this form of outreach is so anyway thank you again we’ll be engaging in that process and sending more detailed comments but again we’re very disappointed and you know very concerned that this process is not serving anybody’s interests at the moment thank you thanks again Jeremy we really appreciate your feedback and comment is there anyone else on the line that would like to raise their hand at this moment and give a comment we still have just under 30 minutes we will continue again we will continue to have the line open this will ensure that anyone that may be joining late would have that opportunity to provide a public comments as well so we’re just gonna continue to wait and see who else would like to provide that in the meantime I will share the how to submit comment slide again and as we see hands raised we will definitely jump right back over to the timer slide and would greatly appreciate more feedback more comments again if you’re on the phone star nine raises your hand on your computer the participants tab click and then the hand raised icon I don’t see anyone so far so I will go ahead and put the how to submit comment slide it back up and we will wait to see if we have any more commenters thank you you Denise Denise welcome back you should have the ability to speak now oh yes thank you I just wanted to concur with those who have already eloquently stated the heartbreaking disappointment about indigenous people not being heard and not being responded to and even with good intentions let’s be honest this virtual environment does not give the kind of give-and-take that a public hearing would and the reason I’m here today is I was moved by the social injustice of this situation I visited the reservation several times and only have a glimmer of of the realities of how life is on the reservation and they deserve equal access and the digital divide is well documented in our culture and and kind of for God’s sakes I use the IRS example because you know we all we all feel like the IRS is not necessarily on our side right but when they come out early on in this pandemic and they have a 90 day delay in filing tax returns when that will cause a convulsion in in the revenue flow into federal government doesn’t that say something about the model of federal government trying to support and aid the nation and I just I I just feel like all of these facts are so you true on their face that it it should be an easy decision and not that I have any idea what what the other pressures may be but it took six years to develop this plan as we understood from the presentation and the 90 days to respond to it happens to fall in historic pandemic time no one is going to criticize the BLM or the BIA for for slowing this process down the oil and gas markets have collapsed so there’s no upside economic value at this point in time so what on God’s earth is the reason for not showing compassion treating one another as equal citizens and equal stakeholders and I just it’s very difficult to understand and and with all with all due respect you’re just trying to do your job but I think there’s lots of public example that no one’s going to criticize you for extending the time frame thank you thank you again Denis we really appreciate your comment anyone else on the line we do have still almost about 23 minutes remaining so we will continue to leave the line open so that anyone that has joined us late may be able to provide their public comment will continue to show this slide on how to submit comments until we have a hand raised and then we will I will be repeating this message as well in five minute increments until the end of the meeting so right now I’m going to share my screen again to show how to submit comments thank you everyone you hello again we have a couple of folks with their hands raised so thank you very much Maya king flattery here up first and then Anna started Santorini you’re up next my oh you should be able to go ahead and speak great hi thank you my name is spelled M iya my last name ki ng – f for Freddie la h e rty hi um and I’ve been kind of observing this meeting and it’s been quite interesting to say the least and I I wasn’t planning to speak but I felt compelled to because there’s just so much dead silence you know the fact that there is so much dead space during the public comment period really speaks to the absurdity of holding these online meetings because all you’ve heard multiple times that tribal governments – those are communities that are impacted there have been a few voices who are actually from impacted areas able to to comment and get on you know the zoo meeting but you know time attention resources you know people are focused on ensuring that communities that are most impacted during these times who are hard-hit are helped and assisted and you know I’m also not surprised but the fact that holding these virtual meetings there’s one that’s going to be scheduled tomorrow that’s a weekend and I’d be hard-pressed to think that many people would take the time from their schedules to engage in a zoo meeting on a weekend again that’s time for people to be what their family is to take care of essential things that need attention and though you know this whole process it seems like the way it’s been rolled out was by design to systematically silence voices and disregard taking public comment into consideration and I’m also really disappointed that after multiple requests from from Jeremy to engage in an actual conversation with Bo and fischels who you know at the beginning of this presentation we’re here but this would be a really good opportunity for them to answer any questions that people may have but we continue to sit here in silence I don’t think anything’s been accomplished I want to echo what everyone else has said about extending the public comment period during a time where you know we kind of get through this and we’re better able to engage because right now that’s just not happening and that’s the whole point of having public meetings thank you thank you Maya we appreciate your comment ana ana santorini you are up next thank you I said and what I what strikes me is that there are among people most directly affected there are so many differing and maybe even opposite or very different conflicting maybe even opinions which means we really do need a dialogue and if culturally virtual is hard and I live in a place where the internet connection is really if the I live on Cochiti Pueblo reservation land and and it’s distant so so internet connection isn’t very good so it seems to me that that if vlm and BIA are really interested in hearing from people I know we’ve lost your your audio and if you can hear me we will come back to you as soon as we see your hand raised again thank you you Thank You Ana let’s start the clock over for Ana please oh sorry your your audio is pretty pretty poor right well I am a case in point then because even even though I know that I mean I’m more or less know how to use this zoom virtual meeting my my internet access is terrible because I live in on Cochin equivalent reservation and it’s remote and there simply isn’t good coverage here so it seems to me if be La Vie ALM and BIA are really interested in hearing comments since there’s no economic downside size for this process to be delayed considering oil prices etc why not busy be creative and plan a schedule for later that that can be applied later where we have lost you again Anna okay onna you’re back on let’s try again and you take hey can barely hear you I can it’s okay anyway I okay I probably need to write this down but a comment process can be designed that combines virtual and face-to-face comment sessions in different areas so all the voices are heard and and people can talk to each other and compromises and can be worked out it seems to me that this could be a very creative process and BIA and BLM have the opportunity to do that so I encourage them to do that thank you Thank You Ana we really appreciate your comment we still have about 11 minutes so we really encourage everyone anyone if you’ve gone before please go again if you haven’t gone we we encourage you to to provide a comment I do want to remind everyone that we we will be able to receive comments in in your native language we really encourage it recommend it if anyone on the phone would like to unmute their self so you can press star 9 and that will raise your hand and then you can provide a comment we have about ten minutes left so until we see another hand raised I’m gonna go and share the how to submit comments slide again so that you can have that information in front of you thank you everyone so much you hello again everyone we’re approaching five minutes left in the conference and I would like to announce that we we are still accepting comments we still encourage you to comment I’d also like to let you know that right at four o’clock we will be hearing from Jill again for some closing remarks so thank you for your patience and thank you for for all of your comments greatly greatly appreciate everything will stay on the line for for five more minutes and then Jill will give some closing remarks there’s still an opportunity we still encourage you to raise your hand star nine on the phone and the raised hand icon on the online thank you all so much you we do have another comment from Anna Anna Center Eenie thank you thank you i okay you could hear me now hear you well now yes okay thank you I just want to encourage people who are mean in commenting today to to be creative and think of ways that the that this comment process can be that BLM and dia can be strongly encouraged to extend and even redesign the comment process this is this is that we’re still a little bit locked down in New Mexico and I think that we have this is an opportunity to put our our efforts to do be creative with our efforts thank you Thank You Adam we also have Steven Steven Burtynsky Steven you should be able to speak now okay thank you very much national delegate for New Mexico to the Green Party u.s.I’ve been following this quite closely the issue that I have is right away from the enabling legislation of the Bureau of Land Management which is a requirement to have sustainable yield with regards to the products that they help produce I don’t see how this whole fracking binge that has gone on is is sustainable yield in any stretch of the imagination it also provides for intergenerational inequity there’s no social justice involved with it and in the long run it also help works to destabilize us from the standpoint of having peaceful relationships with our our neighbors because we’re exporting things in which they’re going to have to be fully dependent upon years in the future noting here the gas that’s being exported down to Mexico for a new generation of power plants again I would like to see a full BLM review of what is sustainable yield how it’s been made me making its mandate in regards to even pushing these particular fossil fuels and the intergenerational inequity that’s that’s being generated as an unresolved thank you thank you very much for your comment Stephen we do have one minute left so if anyone would like to to provide a comment please feel free to do so you can raise your hand star 9 or the participants tab has a raised hand icon looks like maple would like to speak again great Mabel should be able to start your audio Mabel Mabel singer okay now can you hear the answer anyway just to repeat she got called on another phone just to repeat what Yolanda said that the family down there has not suffered any ill effects from this drilling when his benefited from the money greatly also understand the need to develop renewable sustainable resources but in the meantime you know if we want to throw out over plastics and stuff like that you know that’s the we’re gonna have to have these Petroleum’s for a while also glad to let that petroi him sit in the ground until the prices come back up but just no ill effects that the family has had there and noticed that the effort seems to have a smaller footprint due to the method of extracting that oil and petroleum anyway times probably up thank you thank you sir we really appreciate your comment no Stephen Siva did you want to give another comment or do we have your hand stories nope looks like we have okay this time I would like to announce that our the compliment I’m still here Oh Steven I’m sorry I’m sorry I thought that that was the error on our site my apology did not mean to do here Steven please go ahead the other issue I have is that with regards to the again releasing these leases on out with no real concern for the overall atmospheric pollution in the areas not just around choco but also the other areas in in the San Juan and Permian Basin I don’t believe that we have adequately addressed it particularly since there’s no monitoring stations around places like schools that are having to be shut down I was up at councilor for the discussions on this almost two years ago and they were telling me that they were still having go ahead and shut down the school on a regular basis whenever the air pollution levels drifted into the building as a cost to the industry that should be borne any time that they’re within sight of one mile of a school I feel that they should actually be paying for full school decontamination units particularly in the air so that the children can still have their schooling continue and not shutting down the schools on a regular basis thank you Thank You Steven we appreciate your comment at this time I don’t see any other hands raised so I will turn it over to Jill Aragon when she’s ready to give her closing remarks thank you everyone thank you everyone for your time and comments today the BLM and BIA value your input and we will continue to accept your comments on the draft EIS through May 28th any comments received or postmarked after the May 28th date may not be considered please note that the May 28th day is the deadline for the public comments however the BLM and bi will continue to consult with tribes consulting parties and cooperating agencies beyond this date and throughout the EIS development process I’ll be sharing the information that you can use to provide additional comments and who to contact directly if you need further assistance for comments you can go to the e planning tab on the online portal at www.ge.com forward slash Farmington you can leave a voicemail comment by calling seven two zero two one three five seven eight six you can also mail your comments to either project manager at the following addresses for BLM Sarah Scott at six two five one College Boulevard suite a in Farmington New Mexico eight seven four zero two or you can mail them to BI attention to Robert McGee at 3:01 West Hill Avenue in Gallup New Mexico eight seven three zero one there are two more meetings scheduled after this one the next one will be tomorrow morning 9:00 a.m.Mountain Standard Time the one after that will be on Monday May 18th at 9:00 a.m. Mountain Standard Time you can register for these future meetings either online or by calling 5:05 six three five nine seven zero one this concludes today’s virtual public meeting for the Farmington bankers Gallup draft resource management plan amendment an Associated environmental impact statement thank you for joining us today have a good day and stay well you.

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